Tuesday, March 28, 2023

10 reasons why I am not a fan of airline loyalty programs!

I have visited 49 countries so far but I haven’t had great success with Airline Loyalty programs. In this post I am explaining why.

I usually fly whenever it is cheap, wherever it is cheap. Trying to maintain & track airline loyalty programs, use them to max and leverage their benefits doesn’t suit my kind of usage.


1 Loyalty points expire

Airline loyalty programs stay active only if you keep flying with them. But I travel to all parts of the world depending on which airline has the cheapest ticket. Different airlines have different strengths and weaknesses, some airlines sell cheap tickets to certain destinations at specific times, so it is very hard to stick to one airline, accumulate enough points to be able to redeem them into something useful before they expire.


My 14100 odd avios points with Qatar Airways expired because I couldn’t travel much after 2019 due to covid. They were worth around 100-150 USD I guess. Could have exchanged for something in Doha airport if I had another flight or if I knew in 2019 that covid is going to spoil future plans.


When loyalty points expire, it is free money to airlines. I can’t book another ticket costing 30-50k INR just to keep my loyalty points active. If I have a cheaper ticket from elsewhere I am not going to spend 10-20k more with another airline just to retain my loyalty points.


2. Your loyalty membership itself will expire. 

I had a Singapore Airlines Kris flyer account. I had flown with them between Chennai and Singapore multiple times in 2012-2013. But I didn’t fly Singapore airline for almost a decade as I was using much cheaper Air Asia flights to visit South East Asia. 2013 I booked a ticket to South Korea on SQ, but was unable to use my old Kris flyer account. On asking their twitter handle, I got a reply that Kris flyer account will expire after 39 months (about 3.5 years). I had to create a new account afresh. I am not very sure if I will fly enough with SQ within the next 4 years to accumulate enough points to use them for an upgrade or free ticket.


Qatar Airways at least hasn’t deleted my membership account like SQ (just about 3.5 years since my last flight with them- need to see what happens after 4-5 years). Looks like my Emirates membership is also gone.


Airlines may not even mail you that your membership is being terminated. When I try forgot password I get a msg that a link has been sent to your email, which in reality doesn’t happen as they have terminated the membership. Website should say “Sorry you’re membership is no longer active, sign up afresh”


Not sure what airlines get by deleting a loyalty program account- it is not like they are giving me some physical space or asset that costs money. A customer may get aggravated when he/she learns he/she has been kicked out of airline’s loyalty program and may book different airline next time


3. Complicated rules

I spent over 1 lakh on Srilankan Airlines, booking tickets for myself and my family. But I got no loyalty points for family member tickets. For that I need to create one account for each of them, which was not practical as they don’t fly a lot. All I could redeem was one small kids watch worth 20 rupees.

Read detailed account here:


4 Buying a ticket won’t get you loyalty points. You need to fly.

My last flight with Srilankan was from Beijing to Chennai. The points for this trip will be credited after the trip ends. And for the redemption process I had to take another flight, as they won’t deliver your gift to your home and can be redeemed on a flight as well. I have paid for the ticket- if I could redeem my points on my last flight I could have got a better gift, but now those points are gone. I’ve not flown Srilankan since 2018 and don’t have any plans for the near future.


What is the problem if I redeem my points ahead of my flight when I have a non refundable ticket?


5 I don’t see a point paying more money to get more points

Airlines sell the same economy class ticket under 3-4 different fare types. The cheapest fare type gets the least points. For more loyalty points you’ve to pay almost 2x more and select a more flexible ticket.


I don’t see a point paying 2x more for a super flexible ticket (which still has cancellation charge, need to pay fare difference etc)- I would rather buy a cheapest 35k ticket and lose it 100%, than pay 60k and lose 25k for sure if I travel and lose some 10-15k still if I can’t fly.


6 Budget airlines are usually cheaper and better

I can’t fly a full service airline just because of their loyalty points & food if I have a low cost carrier taking me to the same destination for half the price.


Full service airlines have realized it-now they are also selling economy lite fare without checked bags, without or minimum loyalty point and so on.


I had reached Platinum level with AirAsia Big loyalty program, but budget airline loyalty program means nothing. I was not sent any physical card, No priority boarding, no lounge access in KUL, nothing. A gold tier in Singapore airline would have got me lots more privileges, but then if I was to book SQ instead of Air Asia I would have probably spent 10x more money. Read more details here.


7 Hard to stick to one airline


I don’t want to stay committed to one airline. from what I have experienced it is hard to stick to one airline all the time, due to following reasons

  • In 2019, Qatar Airways had several cheap tickets, so I flew with them to the USA, UK and got some miles. But when I was planning for trips post covid, Qatar was very expensive. I flew Lufthansa and SwissAir on a recent Europe trip as they gave better deal. I don’t see a point sticking to one airline when other airlines are selling tickets for half the price for the same destination. This means my loyalty points accumulated may not be good enough to redeem anything useful and they will simply expire after few years
  • AirAsia was my preferred airline to explore South East Asia, but post pandemic their fare has increased a lot. Also I am done visiting most of SouthEast Asia, now focus is on Africa, Europe and other destinations.
  • As of now I see Singapore airline selling cheap tickets to Korea, Taiwan, Japan etc. But no guarantee how long it remains. Any moment their price may increase and some other airline may become cheaper.

8 Airline Industry Keeps evolving, rules keep changing

While we have a 3-4 year timeline to redeem our points, the industry itself may undergo changes. Many airlines go bankrupt, mergers happen, Tata is looking to merge Vistara, Air India, AirAsia etc, management changes, their pricing, rules, terms & conditions changes. Now from India I can't access my AirAsia Malaysia account. Nothing stops airlines from suddenly increasing the loyalty points needed to book a free flight.


Too much headache to keep track of how many points I have with which airline, when they expire, how many more points I need to redeem something useful, how to get them and so on. I prefer to get the cheapest tickets and be done with it.


9 There is no free meals

The money for the loyalty program doesn’t come from thin air. A portion of our ticket money is earmarked for this program. Loyalty program is excellent for business travelers where their company books their tickets on a full service airline. (Even companies are on cost cutting spree and have several rules to cut unnecessary luxury these days). As a budget traveler I would rather take a cheaper ticket and save money right away at the time of booking, than pay more and struggle to redeem it before they expire and comply with a dozen different rules of the airlines and loyalty programs.


10 There should be one universal loyalty program

Each airline has its own loyalty program. Each bank and hotel has its own loyalty program. It becomes too many memberships to manage and keep track of. Of course you get an opportunity to convert- like converting credit card points to airline points, if you are short of some points you can pay money and buy points and so on. Still it becomes too much number crunching for an individual. Unless we spend a lot, travel a lot and have an appetite to manage every point and every penny smartly this works. If not it is too much time & effort.


So what to do if you have a few points not worthy of anything?

  • Buy points- airlines allow you to pay and buy some points- can be considered if you are short of few points for a free ticket or upgrade and OK to pay some money, get extra points and use them.
  • Transfer: see if you can transfer points between different loyalty programs- not always possible, you should be lucky to have that option with another loyalty program where you already have some points and can use total points

  • Buy ticket with cash+reward points: If you have plan to buy a ticket, you can buy with points- at least a few thousand rupees will be reduced if you have adequate points

  • Ignore and move on: If loyalty points are too few and not worth the time and effort, better to forget and move on.
Let me know what you think...

Who will fly to Shivamogga airport first?

It has been a month since Shivamogga airport in Karnataka was inaugurated. However no airline is flying to Shivamogga yet. 

Before we focus on Shivamogga airport, let us look at other airports in Karnataka, excluding BIAL or Bengaluru international airport.


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Airport

Flights operating

1

Mangaluru

Several flights from BLR, few to Mumbai and Middle East (Indigo, Air India, Air India express)

2

Hubballi

Indigo to MAA, BLR, DEL, PNQ etc

Star Air to BLR

3

Belagavi

Star Air to Mumbai, AMD

Indigo to BLR, HYD

4

Kalaburagi

Star Air to BLR, Tirupati

Alliance air to BLR

5

Vidyanagara (Ballari)

Alliance air to BLR and HYD

TruJet shut down

6

Bidar

Star Air to BLR, 

7

Mysuru

Alliance air to Hyd, Goa, MAA

Indigo to MAA


As you can see, other than Mangaluru and Hubballi most other airports have just a few flights every day. Star Air, Alliance air are operating smaller planes. If they can get 50-60 passengers per flight they should be good. When demand is not sustaining, airlines first reduce frequency (just a few days a week) and eventually pull out from an airport completely. 


Shivamogga falls in the middle of Hubballi, Mangaluru, Ballari and Mysuru. Shivamogga has good bus and train connectivity to BLR and other parts of Karnataka, thus a flight may not be an exciting proposition for many. (Bus to BLR takes about 6 hours- flying also will take same time

  • 30 minutes to reach Shivamogga airport from city

  • 2 hours airport formalities

  • 1 hour flying to Bengaluru

  • 1.5 to 2 hour BLR airport to city

A daytime flight will waste half a day end to end. Evening/early morning flight might find more takers else people may prefer cheaper overnight bus or train.


But Shivamogga airport could be preferred by tourists visiting Malenadu area

Jog falls-100 kms

Chikmagaluru- 100 kms

Thirthahalli 60 kms

And many more attractions within a 100 kms radius.


Thus a flight from Mumbai/Delhi stopping at Shivamogga and then proceeding to somewhere else- say Kerala or TN might find a good amount of passengers if fares are attractive. Right now people around Shivamogga who need to go to Delhi have to reach either BLR, Hubli, Mangalore or Goa and then take a flight from there. But I feel Shivamogga city may not necessarily have 100+ people each day who need to go to Delhi. If people of Shivamogga can be enticed to explore North Indian tourist places many of them may come forward and plan a north India trip.


Flights to Hyderabad and Chennai also may find takers- students, businessmen and leisure travelers may grab it. 

Those heading to Goa can fly to Shivamogga, spend a few days enroute-Sagara, Honnavara, Karwar etc) and then head to Goa.


Let us see who operates the first commercial flight to Shivamogga and from where. Someone got to launch the flight, operate for a few months and see how ticket collection goes. If not enough people are buying tickets, airlines will suspend flights and fly elsewhere.


Shivamogga airport is yet to get IATA airport code without which airlines can’t sell tickets. Airport code SIM, SME, SMG etc are all taken.  Airlines can start with ATR or Embraer smaller planes to begin with, as filling all 180 seats of an A320 or B737 might be difficult initially. Also the airport needs food counters, taxi service etc. Unless people start coming, these services won’t take off. There is also a fixed cost of maintaining emergency services, ATC, security and other infrastructure which doesn’t work out unless thousands of passengers fly in and out each day. Unless people start coming, these services won’t take off. Let us hope for the best.


I heard the Govt plans to propose Shivamogga as a cheap place to park aircrafts, encouraging airlines to use it as a hub. We need to see if airlines get excited by this proposition.


Besides people of Shivamogga, the airport can also draw passengers from Udupi, Chikmaglur, Hasana, Sirsi, Honnavara etc if tickets are cheap and flight options are good.


What are your expectations from Shivamogga airport and which airline you think will start operations first?


P.S. I don’t have a photo of Shivamogga airport yet, so I have used some photos of Shivamogga tourist places.

RyanAir aisle seat passengers are at a major disadvantage!

Ryanair allows only one small bag free of charge with their cheapest tickets. The rule is that bag has to be small enough to fit under the seat in front of you. Any bigger bag you’ve to pay extra and buy a cabin bag allowance to use overhead luggage storage space or pay even more to check them in.

However I have spotted a major issue with this model.


Due to the way seats are designed in Ryanair B737s, those sitting in aisle seats are at a disadvantage. The width of the space ahead is much smaller than what passengers sitting in the window seat and middle seat get. Refer images below.


Above: My small bag takes entire space under the seat in aisle seat, can't stretch my legs in

Below: Same bag under middle seat- lots of space left

This essentially means if you get a window or middle seat you might be able to carry a slightly bigger bag and keep them under the seat in front of you, while those sitting in aisle seats (C or D) end up finding it impossible to keep their bag under the seat in front of them. If they try to use overhead space, the crew may force them to pay.


Another challenge with reduced space is there will be no room to keep your legs. In the image above I had no room to keep my leg, but if I was seated in A or B, I could have kept my bag and stretched my legs as well.


Ryanair should accept this deficiency and be more generous with those who get aisle seats. As a passenger I don’t have control on seat allocation unless I cough up 8 Euro or more per seat for a seat selection option. Me getting assigned an aisle seat and having less space compared to someone sitting beside me is NOT my fault.


Easyjet also follows the same rule. However Easyjet uses A320 and their seating design doesn’t have this issue. Space under the seat is uniformly split.


Related: 2019 Ryan Air Southend-Dublin experience * 2015 Ryanair experience * European airlines compared * Wizzair experience *

Tuesday, March 21, 2023

AirAustral suspending Chennai service?

Air Austral is a St Denis (Reunion Island) based airline. They had a weekly flight to Chennai, their only destination in India.

I have already written about Reunion Island and AirAustral. They had a Chennai-St Denis return ticket for 27k pre-covid and was being sold for 33k post covid. I was hoping for good deal to book.

But looks like they have stopped accepting bookings for Chennai. Website showing an error for Chennai while rest of the destinations on their network selling fine.

Not sure if it is temporary or they have suspended Chennai for now. No official information available.

Air Austral had downgraded Chennai flight from A330 to A220.

Hope they resume. 

Thursday, March 16, 2023

Lufthansa gives full refund in case of Visa Reject

Visa rejection itself is a disappointment after paying 11-12k in Visa fees and tons of documents. Losing another 40-70k in ticket money for no fault of ours is an even bigger loss. Lufthansa’s policy needs to be appreciated in this matter.

This is the story of a friend, who had applied for a Schengen visa but the visa got rejected. He had already booked an India-Europe ticket on Lufthansa costing over 40k, the cheapest, non refundable ticket but due to visa rejection he was about to lose all the money.

However, having a word with customer care, he learnt that he can apply for a refund. While Lufthansa is not legally required to refund non-refundable tickets for customers whose visa is rejected, they do so as an act of goodwill. Refer Lufthansa policy documentation here.


After sending an email along with a visa rejection letter copy, he got a refund in about 15 days.


This is good news and useful information. If you spot a cheap ticket but fear not getting a visa, you can book without fear on Lufthansa or Swiss Air. Indeed a good gesture by Lufthansa. Lufthansa could have pocketed 40k but would have lost trust of a customer, his friends & family and would have lost future business. Now my friend will book Lufthansa with preference next time.


Here is a link to Lufthansa policy which permits refunds in case of visa rejection. 


Not very sure if other airlines like Air France KLM or middle east carriers like Qatar, Emirates or Etihad do the same-I couldn’t find anything assuring on their websites.  Are you aware of any other airlines giving full refund if visa is rejected?


My travel on Lufthansa and SwissAir to Europe and back was fine. Flights were on time (almost) and service was standard. I will write separate posts about my travel experience.


If airline refuses to refund, your options are usually limited

  • You can try to get the tickets rescheduled to a future date and apply for a fresh visa or appeal

  • If the airline makes some changes to your schedule or cancels some of the flights, you may be eligible for refund- hope it happens 


Disclaimer: Please validate the latest rules and regulations with the airlines directly before purchasing tickets. Rules change from time to time and may vary from country to country. This post shares experience of an Indian user sometimes early 2023 and won't be responsible if airline refuses your refund.

 

Lufthansa Premium Economy Experience * Lufthansa India complicated ticket booking experience * Schengen Visa 2023 application process *

First flight with WizzAir : experience

There were no major updates in airlineblog since months. I am back from a 3 week Europe trip with several within Europe flights, so a series of posts are being lined up. This post is about a new airline I flew for the first time- WizzAir

I had my first flight with Budapest based budget airline, WizzAir this month


WizzAir operates budget flights within Europe and also to some parts of Asia and middle east- they fly between Abu Dhabi and Europe for cheap, so it is possible to make a cheap trip to Europe if you can get a cheap ticket from AUH/Jeddah to Europe, can manage a self transfer & transit visa in UAE.

My Wizzair flight was from Athens, Greece to Budapest, Hungary.


Booking experience: Booking was done by my relative in Europe so I don’t have booking experience, but WizzAir’s cheapest ticket allows 8 kg normal cabin baggage, which is a relief. 


If you sign up to WizzAir’s loyalty program you get to save some 5%


Other budget airlines like EasyJet and RyanAir allow only a small bag that can be held under the seat in front of you and you’ve to pay for a normal cabin bag.


WizzAir web check-in opened 2 days prior to departure. I was allocated a random seat as I refused to pay for the seat. If you can pay for a seat you can do a web check in 1 month ahead. Seat selection costs over 8 Euros, a checked bag would cost 32 Euro. (price may vary based on origin-destination and how early you decide)


WizzAir was not allowing me to use my gmail ID during web check in saying that ID is already in use- had to give some other email ID. I find this part odd.


Delay: WizzAir communicated a 50 minute delay compared to my original schedule at the time of booking. On the day of travel flight was delayed another 90 minutes (while they retained the original check in counter close time). Overall my flight had about 2-2.5 hours of delay but no other issues during the flight. Some issues at the previous airport was cited as reason for delay.


Aero bridge was not used, we were taken to aircraft in buses in Athens.


Aircraft: I got a nice A321. WizzAir has a fleet of A320 and A321 family aircrafts,  about 174 aircrafts total and growing.


Inflight purchase: I bought a piece of bread and a cup of veg soup, costing me about 7 euros online. Taste was good. I could pay using my ICICI forex card.


They give one complementary chocolate if we buy one snack and one drink, but soup is not a drink for this policy. I was told it is applicable only if I buy fanta or some such beverage.


Good things about WizzAir

  • Better aircrafts
  • Better baggage allowance
  • Better food options
  • Few connections to Asia, Middle East, Africa as well

Not so good things or rather possible improvements for WizzAir:

  • Soup and bread combination should have been made eligible for the free chocolate.
  • Not allowing me to provide my own email ID saying it is used" felt odd
  • Couldn't download boarding pass from app
  • Will be great if WizzAir can tie up with some airlines flying to India and allow easy transit via middle east for European destinations so that we don't have to take UAE transit visa and recheck in baggage.

Summary:

  • WizzAir is much better than RyanAir any day. Not forcing us to download app is good.
  • If the price difference is just a few euros, I would say prefer WizzAir over Easyjet or Ryanair as you will get 8 kg cabin baggage included and slightly better food options.
  • Transit via Budapest (Hungary) is fine, but Hungary has its own currency- so you’ve pay via card or get your Euros converted into Hungarian Forint (Currency code HUF) 

Overall my experience was fine. I will keep an eye for the next possible opportunity to fly them. They don’t fly to India so I’ve to carefully plan a India-UAE & UAE- Europe trip to fly them again. Let us see what happens.